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Poster: dwill1188 Date: Dec 6, 2005 6:19am
Forum: etree Subject: GD Posting

In response to Ms. Hamilton's post --
Most deadheads would agree that the majority of discussion on the Archive forum has to do with the Grateful Dead. However, what else gets discussed in this forum? I don't really understand why there should be a halt to GD posting. If you take our discussions away, then what really IS the archive forum? True, this forum should not be 100% percent about the Grateful Dead. However, I do not see any sort of alternative subjects on this forum. If there were other topics that were trying to make their way through the Archive, I would understand; but they're aren't! The Grateful Dead seems to be the lone band discussion on this forum. So why do you want to take it away? If you do, the Archive forum would be left with nothing. In defense of the Deadheads and their posting rights, I ask for an explanation, please. Thank you, Ms. Hamilton, for you time, and we will always support you.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Dec 6, 2005 7:30am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Posting

Most deadheads would agree that the majority of discussion on the Archive forum has to do with the Grateful Dead.

Only for the last month it has been. For 3 years prior to that it was not this way.

If you take our discussions away, then what really IS the archive forum?

Tech support. General questions. Accouncements about the project. Posts from fans of other bands pointing out interesting shows they just uploaded. We had tons of this until about a month ago when they got trampled by angry GD fans.

To emphasize this, I had someone email me because their post got buried underneath Bob Flames last week and they never got a response to their uploading question. Ugh.

Hopefully that clarifies our actions.

This post was modified by Brad Leblanc on 2005-12-06 15:30:30

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Poster: dwill1188 Date: Dec 6, 2005 7:32am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Posting

So, what your saying is this forum used to be about new show uploadings and technical support? I've only been a member since June, so I guess I didn't realize how much this has changed! Thanks everyone for clarrifying this. Now I understand the problem. I agree that if the website was once different than it is today, it needs to return to its original state (i.e. less Dead posting.) Thanks for the help. Peace.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Dec 6, 2005 7:45am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Postings = Johnny-come-latelies

You can actually go back and read the whole forum from the beginning if you want. There is a tip in this thread:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=21201

Sub in the forum you want in place of "sflan" in that link in there (this forum is "etree"). Then start clicking, "wayback". ;)

Edit: *Most* of "whole forum" for etree, actually. As displayed the very, very first posts are not clickable-to in that output. I had fiugured out a workaround but I forget what it is now. I think it's only a couple weeks' worth chopped anyway.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-12-06 15:45:41

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Poster: ascheylus Date: Jan 8, 2006 8:16am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Posting

I agree that archive.org should go back to the way it used to be! with downloadable grateful dead soundboards!!!!!!

archive.org sucks now.

I have 130 five star soundboards I downloaded before the day archive.org died. I'll trade with anyone who wants them. ascheylus@yahoo.com

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Poster: elkdog Date: Dec 6, 2005 6:48am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Posting

As a deadhead, I feel obligated to bring up the numerous threads over the past week started by people looking for good folk music, harmonizing, and good bands in general that got snowplowed off the front page by redundant ranting about the Dead.
In addition, I think that if you were to post about a show currently on the Archive, your post would not be deleted (Correct me if I'm off base here, Diana). I think Diana and the Archive staff are quite right in saying that the time has come to move on from the Dead/ Soundboard issue. Though extremely unfortunate, it is not a very complex issue, and there is no compelling reason to let it hijack the forums for weeks on end.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Dec 6, 2005 7:03am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Posting

i agree - the sbd posts are becoming very very redundant (although I am also guilty of posting a few comments). IT IS time to move on. The GD situation is what it is. These forums will not be empty without the recent GD blather. Elk is right - numerous good posts about band suggestions FROM DEADHEADS have been lost in the past week or so. Let's let it go folks - things may or may not change. But there is still some GREAT!!! music out here on the Archive.

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Poster: HighNRGOne Date: Dec 6, 2005 9:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: No Need to Say More

Thanks for coming out and helping us make this music tonight. You know, this music really is about the community and expanding our consciousness of each other and how we all fit together in these challenging times.

- Phil Lesh speaking to audience at Phil Lesh & Friends performance in New Jersey - Nov. 22, 2005.

This post was modified by HighNRGOne on 2005-12-07 05:30:18

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Poster: jerry joe jack aroe Date: Dec 6, 2005 7:51am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Posting

DITTO

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Poster: drew4utoo Date: Dec 6, 2005 8:01am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Posting

"Universal access to human knowledge"...through censorship!!!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Dec 6, 2005 7:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Moderation

I think that if you were to post about a show currently on the Archive, your post would not be deleted (Correct me if I'm off base here, Diana)

You are correct, sir. Remember all the "Grateful Dead song: Best [insert name]" threads we had once upon a time, that had their own lower-level meta-effect? Those are lookin' pretty sweet right now after all- as long as they're not just used as a cover for more "issues" related stuff right now.

Meanwhile, while we have this little enforced cooldown period here, I recommend the perfect forum for any other stuff at risk of moderation here: DNC (I think now it's called "Community") at dead.net.

Thanks for understanding, and my apologies for the harshness at the moment.

...Dang, I just realized this was a separate thread, so consider this a pointer to the true parent:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=50565

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2005-12-06 15:05:36

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Poster: nuchdig Date: Dec 6, 2005 8:40am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: GD Posting

First off, THANK YOU to the whole Archive staff. I'm sure you all have been working overtime, your efforts are greatly appreciated. The GD posts have polluted the forum for the last week or so. I have found many a new band/artist through recommendations. It's tough to wade through all the rhetoric that's been flying around. That said, go to Mickey Hart's web site and see what he has to say about the music being pulled. I appears as though Bob has alienated himself!